tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4860897900615196454.post6637725230726269283..comments2024-03-26T17:30:22.600-08:00Comments on Way Up North: What is our responsibility toward the poor?Rev. Paulhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04588179227576383679noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4860897900615196454.post-90057985435628274092013-12-10T16:13:35.263-09:002013-12-10T16:13:35.263-09:003boxes, I believe that they fall into the third ca...3boxes, I believe that they fall into the third category, that of the <i>exploited</i>. The system, as it were, has let them down. In fact, the "system" (meaning public education, the media, elected officials, etc) has been deliberately misleading the general public for over a century.<br /><br />Now the people to whom you refer make bad decisions because they've been fed bad information, or none at all. <br /><br />The "garbage in, garbage out" rule applies here, in spades!<br /><br />We owe it to them to lay out the truth clearly, and explain to them why that which they've always "known" is often wrong. <br /><br />Having said that ... if they then choose to reject the truth, go on believing the lies, and continue making bad choices, then they fall clearly into the first category: the <i>irresponsible</i>.Rev. Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04588179227576383679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4860897900615196454.post-25671212600672281662013-12-10T14:10:55.219-09:002013-12-10T14:10:55.219-09:00Rev. Paul,
I wonder if there isn't a 5th cate...Rev. Paul,<br /><br />I wonder if there isn't a 5th category; those who are poor because they continually make bad decisions.<br /><br />I'm not referring to those who made a single mistake, those who suffered a medical problem, --those with a one time event that put them down and out.<br /><br />But those who choose to spend money for 'fast food' instead of cooking cheaply at home; those who choose to have a new cell phone, video game, car, clothes, etc and spend without saving. Or they buy things on debt; ending up with more money going out to just keep the stuff they have instead of moving forward. <br /><br />What should we do with this group? <br /><br />Do they fall into the 3rd group of exploited -- even though they are capable of making rational decisions -and often do when they want some short term goal.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4860897900615196454.post-60152891474816044312013-12-10T12:56:28.163-09:002013-12-10T12:56:28.163-09:00Indeed, Bob. He also instructed His church (us, th...Indeed, Bob. He also instructed His church (us, the body of believers) to carry on the work. <br /><br />He also never told anyone to pass laws making it mandatory, at the point of a gun. But that's a whole 'nother post, no?Rev. Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04588179227576383679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4860897900615196454.post-88342937188176369862013-12-10T12:49:24.265-09:002013-12-10T12:49:24.265-09:00"Jesus fed the poor!" is an argument I o..."Jesus fed the poor!" is an argument I often hear from leftists arguing about the advantages of the welfare state.<br /><br />Yes, Jesus fed the poor - - miraculously. He also raised the dead, healed the lame, and gave eyesight to the blind - - miraculously. Us lesser humans don't have those advantages. Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11402651457453813639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4860897900615196454.post-811816422816877162013-12-10T11:47:33.529-09:002013-12-10T11:47:33.529-09:00I think that's a great idea, PH; it strikes ri...I think that's a great idea, PH; it strikes right at the heart of the "something for nothing" mentality.Rev. Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04588179227576383679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4860897900615196454.post-81043692237334082382013-12-10T11:46:08.169-09:002013-12-10T11:46:08.169-09:00The whole working thing is why those who stay in o...The whole working thing is why those who stay in our cold weather shelter are required to clean it in return. Makes me feel a bit odd to stand around and not do anything, but it makes them take some responsibility even if they fall into the lazy category.ProudHillbillyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14305205710265854978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4860897900615196454.post-91847436273687172252013-12-10T10:22:31.572-09:002013-12-10T10:22:31.572-09:00Thanks, threecollie.Thanks, threecollie.Rev. Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04588179227576383679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4860897900615196454.post-73814835578482953432013-12-10T10:21:52.869-09:002013-12-10T10:21:52.869-09:00Impressive and interestingImpressive and interestingthreecolliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05811004278088768813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4860897900615196454.post-80408679761519195142013-12-10T08:08:56.788-09:002013-12-10T08:08:56.788-09:00So it would seem, Guffaw. I saw your morning post,...So it would seem, Guffaw. I saw your morning post, after you commented. :)<br /><br />eiaftinfo - agreed. Much of it is sheer laziness & lack of personal ethics (on <i>both</i> sides of that equation).<br /><br />Concur, NFO.<br /><br />Preppy, that's a good way to look at it. I agree.Rev. Paulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04588179227576383679noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4860897900615196454.post-84565153695552664902013-12-10T07:54:27.147-09:002013-12-10T07:54:27.147-09:00Gee, good question. I think a lot of it depends on...Gee, good question. I think a lot of it depends on your own circumstances as well and what you can do. The entire question of just who is poor is so convoluted today due to government involvement I just kinda have faith that if they need my help they will be placed in a position to get it.<br />PioneerPreppyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09269878017447335944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4860897900615196454.post-5603727370462522552013-12-10T07:24:32.761-09:002013-12-10T07:24:32.761-09:00Agree with EIA... sighAgree with EIA... sighOld NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4860897900615196454.post-12898988818479863512013-12-10T07:06:18.341-09:002013-12-10T07:06:18.341-09:00For this particular topic I'm fond of Paul'...For this particular topic I'm fond of Paul's second letter to the Corinthians - his approach was that if a person was unwilling to work - they should not be fed by the community. Keeping within the 4 "types" of poverty listed above these folks fell squarely in the indolence group. Today we seem to have many that enjoy gaming the system while living off the labors of others. And, our current government seems intent on increasing their ranks. Can't go on forever . . .eiaftinfohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13595068743383767561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4860897900615196454.post-42722499438489586062013-12-10T06:33:30.148-09:002013-12-10T06:33:30.148-09:00Wow. We must have been channelling the same spiri...Wow. We must have been channelling the same spirits, today!<br />(or some variation)<br /><br />gfaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com