22 October 2019

What Were They Thinking?

And do we think the same way, now?


We all suspect that the Founding Fathers were better-educated and/or wiser than ourselves, when it came to the history of governments, and the theories about how better to govern these Colonies. I want to reexamine the things they knew, leading up to the Declaration (and later, the Constitution).

For if it [the unlawful act of government] reach no farther than some private men's cases, though they have a right to defend themselves ... yet the right to do so will not easily engage them in a contest ... it being as impossible for one or a few oppressed men to disturb the government where the body of the people do not think themselves concerned in it...

But if either these illegal acts have extended to the majority of the people, or if the mischief and oppression has light [struck] only on some few, but in such cases as the precedent and consequences seem to threaten all, and they are persuaded in their consciences that their laws, and with them, their estates, liberties, and lives are in danger, and perhaps their religion, too, how will they be hindered from resisting illegal force used against them, I cannot tell. (John Locke, Second Essay Concerning Civil Government)

What he's saying is that a majority of the people are likely to revolt, just as our forebears did, when they perceive - as a majority - that they are threatened by government's action(s). The Founders certainly believed that the colonists, as a whole, were in jeopardy from British actions.

Now go read the headlines again; look at the Manhattan Declaration; see the list of complaints forwarded by Tea Partiers and others in the last decade or so, and think again. Have we approached such a time? Have we actually reached it? At what point is a consensus of "the majority" achieved? And who decides?

Discuss.

10 comments:

Old NFO said...

I believe we are very close. And I believe the tipping point will be gun confiscation. Compliance in NY, NJ, CT is hovering around 4-5%, and the LEOs aren't in any hurry to 'enforce' those lays.

Rev. Paul said...

I concur. Any attempt at confiscation will result almost immediately in a spotty civil rebellion. It won’t be pretty, but it WILL be effective. Eventually.

Rob said...

America going full circle?? Another revolution?? Civil War???
Both??

Rev. Paul said...

In a word, yes. I believe so.

ProudHillbilly said...

I've made certain decisions about certain things.I wonder how many others of the generations that have come out of mine have made those decisions, too?

Rev. Paul said...

I know my children are certain, but others? It’s hard to say.

drjim said...

And I think this is why so much illegal immigration has been allowed. It dilutes the number of "real" Americans to the point where we are no longer the majority.

More sheep, fewer sheepdogs, and the wolves running the game are salivating.....

Rev. Paul said...

jim, that's a HUGE part of their plan. Unfortunately for the wolves, many of the sheepdogs are heavily armed.

Toirdhealbheach Beucail said...

I do not know the time for sure, Reverend. All I do know - have known for years - is that the two sides are moving farther and farther apart. At this point it is separate peacefully or separate with extreme prejudice.

Rev. Paul said...

It surely seems that way, doesn’t it?